Taxonomic Swap 111644 (Guardado el 22/06/2022)

Taxonomy of the Cactaceae Vol:I to IV (Referencia)
Añadido por najera_tutor el junio 22, 2022 06:35 TARDE | Comprometido por najera_tutor el 22 de junio de 2022
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What published taxonomic treatment is this based on? There has been much confusion about these names and we should be careful to only follow the best evidence.

Publicado por pieterwinter hace alrededor de 1 año

@najera_tutor @christiaan_viljoen this seems to be going against POWO for no apparent reason. Please justify the change or revert to C. pallida.

Publicado por pieterwinter hace 10 meses

@jeremygilmore how can we separate these as two different species? Clearly they are not the same species!

Publicado por christiaan_viljoen hace 9 meses

@najera_tutor Will have to explain his reasoning. Further discussion at this flag:
https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/622927

Publicado por jeremygilmore hace 9 meses

How much time is reasonable for @najera_tutor to explain this.
In fact, it should have been explained and properly referenced on this swap.

It is referenced as Source: Taxonomy of the Cactaceae Vol:I to IV (Citation) - unfortunately no page and no volume.
It is mentioned in volumes 3-4 as
"2019: in September, a new phylogenetic work on Cylindropuntia still more complete was done by Majure et al."
it is not mentioned here: https://bsapubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajb2.1364
Phylogenomics in Cactaceae: A case study using the chollas sensu lato (Cylindropuntieae, Opuntioideae) reveals a common pattern out of the Chihuahuan and Sonoran deserts
Lucas C. Majure, Marc A. Baker, Michelle Cloud-Hughes, Andrew Salywon, Kurt M. Neubig First published: 23 September 2019 https://doi.org/10.1002/ajb2.1364Citations: 30

So not sure what this is based on.

In POWO we have:
.* Cylindropuntia imbricata subsp. rosea (DC.) M.A.Baker First published in Madroño 66: 93 (2019) This subspecies is accepted
Native to: Mexico Central, Mexico Gulf, Mexico Northeast
Introduced into: Cape Provinces, Free State, Northern Provinces, Peru, Canary Is.
.* Cylindropuntia pallida (Rose) F.M.Knuth First published in C.Backeberg & F.M.Knuth, Kaktus-ABC: 126 (1936) This species is accepted
Native to: Mexico Central, Mexico Northeast
Introduced into: Namibia, Zimbabwe, New South Wales, Northern Territory, Queensland, Saudi Arabia, South Australia, Spain, Western Australia

Publicado por tonyrebelo hace 9 meses

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