BUT: the synonomy lists it in reverse in the iNaturalist dictionary, so waiting for comment.
(or is then an exception logged for this? - how does one check? This duplication and exception is not logged in the Taxon Schema.)
It appears that the current name is mostly used in southern Africa, and the synonym elsewhere. What is the current thinking (POWO notwithstanding)?
Source: unknown
Added by tonyrebelo on July 10, 2019 11:54 AM
South American Mock Vervain - Photo (c) BJ Stacey, all rights reserved
Glandularia aristigera 465569
465 Obs | Active | Flag for Curation
Covered by a taxon framework for Family Verbenaceae Sourced to Plants of the World Online
Relationship: Deviation
replaced with
Verbena aristigera - Photo (c) Harry Rose, some rights reserved (CC BY)
Verbena aristigera 595993
0 Obs | Inactive | Flag for Curation
Covered by a taxon framework for Family Verbenaceae Sourced to Plants of the World Online
Relationship: Unknown
Comments:
I have not looked for other duplicates between these two genera.
Posted by you over 1 year ago
@loarie could you help us with this, please?
Posted by @karoopixie over 1 year ago
Stop being so impatient. Allow the other communities (florida, california and eastern Australia (only wake up in 12 hours time)) to have a look at it and have their say.
There may be a more recent paper that POWO does not know about or some good reason not to follow POWO. But I very much doubt that Scott will be able to - off the top of his head anyway - help, or that he should until people have had a few days to find and think about it.
Dont worry: it wont be forgotten (even if you allow us to ...)
Posted by you over 1 year ago
Ai, Tony, I'm not being impatient, I am bringing this to Scott's attention. Otherwise no one will ever know about it. Being in draft mode means it shows up nowhere (so far as I can tell).
Posted by karoopixie over 1 year ago
No: your flag is visible to anyone looking at the species ...
and it sits for a few hours in the curators' in tray where they can see it.
Posted by you over 1 year ago
I really don't like that POWO is putting Glandularia back into Verbena. Essentially all the recent papers I've seen of the group (all New World) accept Glandularia, though I am unsure if there are any Old World species. Also, the two genera are quite distinct (at least in the species of the US, Mexico, and Brazil that I am familiar with).
Posted by @nathantaylor over 1 year ago
Dont assume that POWO is putting it back. It is possible that it still has to be split, and the taxon is a little behind times ...
Posted by you over 1 year ago
I do understand that, but regardless, POWO is in disagreement with recent publications.
Posted by nathantaylor over 1 year ago
hi guys sorry about the delay on this - I commented here https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/382908 but I'm proposing we maintain the Glandularia genus for now until folks have a chance to agree on maintaining the whole genus or not
Posted by loarie 11 months ago
Los desacuerdos no intencionados ocurren cuando un grupo padre (B) se adelgaza al cambiar un grupo hijo (E) a otra parte del árbol taxonómico, provocando que las Identificaciones existentes del grupo padre sean interpretados como desacuerdos con las Identificaciones existentes del grupo hijo cambiado.
Identification
La ID 2 del taxón E será un desacuerdo no intencionado con la ID 1 del taxón B después del intercambio de ancestros
Si el adelgazamiento del grupo padre provoca más de 10 desacuerdos no intencionados, deberías dividir el grupo padre después de intercambiar el grupo hijo para substituir las identificaciones existentes del grupo padre (B) con identificaciones con las que no esté en desacuerdo,
Taxonomic Swap deleted:
Taxonomic Swap 59543 (Draft)
see http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:110602-2
and http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:262906-2#synonyms
BUT: the synonomy lists it in reverse in the iNaturalist dictionary, so waiting for comment.
(or is then an exception logged for this? - how does one check? This duplication and exception is not logged in the Taxon Schema.)
It appears that the current name is mostly used in southern Africa, and the synonym elsewhere. What is the current thinking (POWO notwithstanding)?
Source: unknown
Added by tonyrebelo on July 10, 2019 11:54 AM
South American Mock Vervain - Photo (c) BJ Stacey, all rights reserved
Glandularia aristigera 465569
465 Obs | Active | Flag for Curation
Covered by a taxon framework for Family Verbenaceae Sourced to Plants of the World Online
Relationship: Deviation
replaced with
Verbena aristigera - Photo (c) Harry Rose, some rights reserved (CC BY)
Verbena aristigera 595993
0 Obs | Inactive | Flag for Curation
Covered by a taxon framework for Family Verbenaceae Sourced to Plants of the World Online
Relationship: Unknown
Comments:
I have not looked for other duplicates between these two genera.
Posted by you over 1 year ago
@loarie could you help us with this, please?
Posted by @karoopixie over 1 year ago
Stop being so impatient. Allow the other communities (florida, california and eastern Australia (only wake up in 12 hours time)) to have a look at it and have their say.
There may be a more recent paper that POWO does not know about or some good reason not to follow POWO. But I very much doubt that Scott will be able to - off the top of his head anyway - help, or that he should until people have had a few days to find and think about it.
Dont worry: it wont be forgotten (even if you allow us to ...)
Posted by you over 1 year ago
Ai, Tony, I'm not being impatient, I am bringing this to Scott's attention. Otherwise no one will ever know about it. Being in draft mode means it shows up nowhere (so far as I can tell).
Posted by karoopixie over 1 year ago
No: your flag is visible to anyone looking at the species ...
and it sits for a few hours in the curators' in tray where they can see it.
Posted by you over 1 year ago
I really don't like that POWO is putting Glandularia back into Verbena. Essentially all the recent papers I've seen of the group (all New World) accept Glandularia, though I am unsure if there are any Old World species. Also, the two genera are quite distinct (at least in the species of the US, Mexico, and Brazil that I am familiar with).
Posted by @nathantaylor over 1 year ago
Dont assume that POWO is putting it back. It is possible that it still has to be split, and the taxon is a little behind times ...
Posted by you over 1 year ago
I do understand that, but regardless, POWO is in disagreement with recent publications.
Posted by nathantaylor over 1 year ago
hi guys sorry about the delay on this - I commented here https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/382908 but I'm proposing we maintain the Glandularia genus for now until folks have a chance to agree on maintaining the whole genus or not
Posted by loarie 11 months ago